Court Strikes Down Illinois' Concealed-Carry Ban
An appeals court has decided Illinois' ban on carrying a weapon in public is unconstitutional.
A U.S. appeals court has ruled Illinois' ban on carrying a weapon in public is unconstitutional, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Under the 2-1 ruling, the state would have to allow residents to carry weapons. But the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals has given lawmakers 180 days to "craft a new gun law that will impose reasonable limitations, consistent with the public safety and the Second Amendment as interpreted in this opinion, on the carrying of guns in public," the Tribune reported.
Illinois is the only state to not have some form of conceal carry, according to the Chicago Tribune.
Here are some excerpts from the court's opinion:
"We are disinclined to engage in another round of historical analysis to determine whether eighteenth-century America understood the Second Amendment to include a right to bear guns outside the home.
The Supreme Court has decided that the amendment confers a right to bear arms for self-defense, which is as important outside the home as inside...
Illinois had to provide us with more than merely a rational basis for believing that its uniquely sweeping ban is justified by an increase in public safety. It has failed to meet this burden."
The Tribune lauded the decision as a major victory for the National Rifle Association.
Ed
6:22 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
This is great news. Illinois is the ONLY state in the country that has banned concealed carry. It is also the murder capital of the country. Apparently only allowing criminals to carry guns isn't working.
The average citizen doesn't have 24 hour police protection like the people who oppose it like Quinn, Emanuel, and Periwinkle.
I know I'll feel a lot more secure with my Smith&Wesson in my pocket when I go out at night.
tom
9:42 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
too bad no one around you will feel more secure now armed with the knowledge that the nut at the next table has got a gun.
Ed
11:11 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
little tom,
I'm not too worried about how safe anyone around me feels. I know my family and I will be safe. If you choose not to protect yourself that's fine.
I don't appreciate you calling me a nut you little twirp.
Emily
11:16 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Ed - if you need to take a gun to dinner, you really should just stay home.
Ed
11:34 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Emily,
I agree that you shouldn't have to take a gun to dinner. If Orland Park ever get to that point I will stay home rather than have to carry a gun to eat!
The Second Amendment of the constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. People in Illinois should have the option to choose just like the 49 other states. Our lawmakers here are not above the constitution of the United States.
Emily
11:38 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Ed - no one is arguing your right to own a weapon. I argue the need. No one needs it.
tom
11:47 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
you really do see the bad guys all around you don't you ed? just waiting for the chance to use that weapon of yours and show us all how manly you are. i think nut was right on point.
Ed
12:09 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
little tom,
If anyone is a nut here, it's you not me. You need to get out of your mama's basement more often. You seem to be very insecure with yourself. Does it make you feel like a big man to insult people on the internet?
voklst
6:48 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Maybe we need a mandatory gun law
Like Kennesaw....whats their crime rate?
I would hope the criminals would think twice or not bother to consider a crime
Because nice polite civil citizens would now have a weapon to defend their home & selves with. Nothing else has worked.
larry blatt
8:39 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
LB---Best thing that could ever happen in the state of Illinois!!!! About time!!
Steve T.
9:03 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
This is Very good news indeed! Law abiding citizens must have the ability to protect themselves outside of the home.
Emily
10:12 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
It's proven you are not safer just because you're carrying a gun. How many times have any of you been robbed, beaten, etc? Most likely the answer is zero.
JEG
10:28 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
It's about time. Now we will begin to see the crime rate drop. Its a proven fact in carry conceal states. And to Emily hopefully none of us will be beaten or robbed but in the long run it will hopefully deter the criminal from attempting and he /she may think twice. I will feel safer and I go to the range on a regular basis to keep my skills up.
Emily
10:50 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
I really won't feel safer knowing every idiot with road rage could be carrying a gun legally. The violence you speak of will not drop due to conceal and carry.
Mary Carumba
11:08 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
There doesn't seem to be a problem in the other 49 states where it is legal. Chicago is the murder capital of the world.
Emily
11:12 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Mary - conceal and carry isn't going to make a difference in Chicago where the majority of gun violence is gang related.
Ed
11:17 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Emily,
I do believe it would make a difference in Chicago. They need it more than anybody. It is not safe there. The gangs prey on innocent law abiding citizens. They might think twice about assaulting you if you could possibly be armed.
Emily
11:37 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Ed - the crime against the citizens who would be allowed to carry is not there. The ones outside of gangs are usually children walking home from school. Again, conceal and carry not helping
William
4:06 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013
Emily, you're right in probably 99% of the cases. There could be like you said someone who cares, having a bad night, gets insulted and draws his gun or worse kills someone. That person now will be a criminal, even for just drawing his gun in public it if against the law unless you can show proof of bodily harm towards you or a family member. Last year over on 159th I believe near Oak Park Ave. there was an Irish resturant that was hosting a meeting and some various people, masked and unmasked came in and started beating on the customers in that resturant. Had someone had a gun there to stop this a lot of people wouldnt of been hurt. The only problem again is that the person with the gun needs to be trained, and not just a person with a gun. There are pros and cons to both sides of the story, there is a lot less gun violence in Texas since just about everyone carrys down there. But it's like anything else, we need to find out who the people are who want to carry, they need to be trained and not just let every Tom, Dick or Harry carry a gun. It's not the carrying part that makes you feel like a man, if that's why you want to carry, then you have problems. It's the wanting to protect your family from and keep them out of harms way, that is your right. Criminals arent checked out before they get a gun, but we should be to be able to defend our families.
Georgina
1:04 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
The sad truth is it just does not make much difference either way, every study no matter if it found it helps or hurts, only does so by a small margin (http://www.sj-r.com/top-stories/x1526463189/Concealed-carry-laws-Experts-debate-impact). I do not have the answers, but I am with Ed that I feel better if I have the right to carry. Happy safe holidays all, Georgina
Emily
1:15 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
So you're saying your entire life you've walked around with some level of fear because you don't have a loaded gun on your person? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard.
Robert
2:31 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Emily,
You seem to be a little out of touch with reality. It's a violent world out there and crime statistics just keep on rising. It will only get worse with millions of people unemployed, uneducated, and looking for ways to survive in this economy.
If you choose to not protect yourself and your family that's your right but don't condemn those who choose to.
Emily
2:34 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Robert -
I think you watch a little too much Fox News.
Good luck wearing your gun and don't shoot yourself in the foot.
JEG
2:17 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Emily, You don't have to participate in carry conceal if you wish not to. that is what is so wonderful about our United States........ We have the right to do so if we wish. it is a personal choice. No one is telling you you have to run out and buy a gun. I am a woman and I have owned my own gun since i was 18. I am now 66 and my children also own their own guns. We do not run around with them or commit road rage. We are law-abiding citizens who would like some extra protection for ourselves. The police can not be everywhere 24/7.
Emily
2:32 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Not once did I say it was being forced on anyone. My point is you live in Orland Park. Comments were made that people will finally feel safe with their pistol strapped to them. Really? That's sad. It really is. Living in fear without a weapon is silly.
Congrats on you and your weapons. I am sure you have never once needed it for personal protection. That's the point I am making. There's really no need for one.
Robert
2:41 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Emily,
All of your comments here have been silly and not supported by any facts. If you think your safe in Orland Park your delusional. I think you watch too much Leave It to Beaver and Brady Bunch.
Emily
2:45 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
I feel sad for you. I feel completely safe. 100%.
Emily
2:46 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Robert - where are your facts that Orland Park is riddled with violence that carrying a gun will change?
JEG
2:50 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Emily,
Sorry to say I did have to use my gun. I never discharged it but I was very glad I had it in my hand until the County Sheriff arrived. I do not live in the city limits proper but in an unincorporated area, and if you read the newspaer you would have read the article where ever the Co. sheriff made a statement that we did the proper act when we were approached by 3 men/ kids/ losers trying to break in . So I do feel safer. This is an argument that no one is going to win. As I said before I feel safer as does my husband and my son and daughter in their respective homes.As to Orland Park it isn't safe there either . Times are a changing Emily get with the times. Robert has a valid point.
Emily
2:54 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
So you used your gun in your home. I still do not see how doing your regular daily errands carrying a weapon is going to help anyone. Never will. If you all feel Orland Park is so unsafe, why are you here?
JEG
3:16 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Am I conversing with a 5 year old? What part of I don't live in Orland did you not understand? And I didn't say unincorporated Orland either. I guess we can read into these paragraphs whatever we want to . And Emily I didn't say I was going to carry a gun strapped on me while doing errands. I wouldn't live in Orland if you paid me but as a citizen I can read whatever paper I wish and comment be it in Orland , Chicago or Timbuktoo.
Emily
3:22 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Nice comment. 5? Really? Thanks. I wasn't referring to just yourself. I guess reading mine you didn't read the "you all" part. Meaning everyone commenting on how bad Orland Park is.
Robert
3:32 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
I have to agree with you that conversing with Emily is like talking to a 5 year old! She has nothing intelligent to say.
Emily
3:35 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Because I don't agree that carrying a gun is useful. No one can argue that they are statistically safer by carrying one.
tom
3:52 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
emily you just don't get it. once eveyone is armed there will be no crime, no shootings ,no problems. everyone will be safe from all the bad guys because they will have guns in their pockets loaded and ready to fire. geez get with the program will you.
Robert
3:44 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Emily,
My final comment to you then is... if the opportunity to carry a weapon presents itself then I will whenever and where ever I feel the need too.
Signing off,
Have a nice day....
Arthur Huff
4:06 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Emily,
Your point that Orland Park is already safe and would never necessitate carrying a gun is probably somewhat true. Although I'm sure the robbery victim who was shot in the JC Penney parking lot last year may beg to differ. However, I think it's naive to assume that because you are in Orland Park you are completely safe from any possibility of being involved in a violent crime situation. The whole point of someone carrying a weapon on them is to protect from the "what ifs."Any rational sane person would be carrying their weapon hoping they never have to use it.
Clearly you don't like the idea of people carrying guns on them. But perhaps you can open your mind just a little bit to the idea that the average law abiding citizen isn't going to be pulling their gun out for every disagreement. I'd rather be surrounded by 100 good people carrying guns legally than to be in a crowd of 100 people where only one psycho criminal has a gun.
voklst
4:42 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Without a doubt you have to analyze the pros & cons of this debatable issue. The biggest problem is criminals DO NOT CARE about you or your family, and 99% of gun violence is commited in the inner-city realm. The fact that your silly unprotected ass is without a firearm is better for all of us!! A superheros biggest fear is that the evil-doers can, and WILL go after those who present the biggest threat...i.e. The ease of procuring that weapon from your un-qualified ass...and use it against you. If you have looked at the statistics the majority of fatal crimes committed by these scumbags comes from the theft of these weapons from those who have them, or from idiots who believe a little practice will help them protect themselves, and loved ones from criminals who are determined to not go down!! Just watch the news...knowledge is power, & ignorance is bliss!! Your more likely to get hit by a Roman Chariot...then have to worry about this crap!! Less guns, Less oppertunity for trouble!! Weas taxpayers are provided with fine upstanding trained individules who RISK THERE LIFES to protect us...thats good enough for me!! Oh, by the way, i am proficiant in the use of all sorts of weapons from military sized Abrahams Tanks to Bows & Arrows...all my life i've been allowed to use, and master these "Tools" , however, the ability to have it just means innevatably it will be used, then you will regret the outcome im sure.
Ben Feldheim
6:30 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
I think we'll be OK with it or without it. Orland Park has crime that sometimes is violent. Look no further than the Police link under the news tab. But it's not unique to a village of this size, especially when people come from far and wide to shop here. Our size and attractions are bigger factors to what crime we have, and this law will affect neither.
I still feel safe here any time of day. I used to live near Foster and Broadway, often hearing gun shots from my balcony. Yes, we've had armed robberies, but I have yet to hear a gun go off while on my back porch.
Lastly, it would be awesome if people could disagree without going right to insults. Odds of changing someone's mind by naming calling are pretty low all around. And do we have to change each other's minds? The world will keep spinning if we disagree, won't it?
Steve
8:44 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012
I'm glad this has been reviewed and Illinois will have to give in, I think the bigger question is how much time and money was wasted by Daley and the others! I'm sure Chicago will come up with some rule that will allow the chosen few to be protected, like Trotter and others.
Mike Spina
3:44 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
What a great decision by the Federal Court. I appsolutely will be carrying my weapon in Orland Park and everywhere else I go in Illinois once the ban is officially lifted. I have a concealed carry permit for the state of Florida where my family has a 2nd home and I have carried down there for many years without a single incident. I was finger printed by the Police and had a complete back round check by the FBI before I was issued my carry permit. I also attended and passed the required training classes. I hope I never have to use my weapon but if there is ever a situation where it comes down to a member of my family being threatened by some scumbag to be injured or killed I will revert to my training and do what I have to too protect their lifes. People who oppose what the Judges ruled do not have to have carry a weapon but the US Constitution says I have a right to bear arms and I fully will exercise my right.
tom
8:58 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012
we are all so proud of you
Steve T.
4:30 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
The anti gun people see the world as they wish it could be. A world without guns, violence. The pro gun people see reality. A world where people have free will and live in a country that allows them to use that free will, most do good things but some do bad. This will never change. Every other state allows their law abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families from those that chose to do harm. The anti gun folks claim that the streets will run red with blood and everyone will be shooting each other. The fact is that this has not happened anywhere in the U.S. even in states where gun carry laws are completely unrestricted.
John B
11:57 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
The argument for guns should not be concentrated on public safety or how comfortable people [have been trained to] feel when they are around one. “Murder rates consistently rise when guns are banned. This is not just a US phenomenon in places such as Washington, D.C. and Chicago, but has been observed worldwide. When guns are banned, even in island nations such as the UK, Ireland, and Jamaica, the pattern has been the same. The problem is that gun bans disarm law-abiding good people, not criminals. With disarmed victims, crime is easier to commit.” [Tom Lott; http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/03/truth-about-costas-belcher-and-guns/]. Back when the Constitution was written, both the government AND the people were in possession of the best arms technologies of their time. The real reasons the Second Amendment is in the Constitution are for Americans to protect themselves from criminals, from a criminal government, and from invading forces. Now I don’t want to have to act on any of these in my lifetime, but if citizens are disarmed or even not allowed to carry assault weapons, the people are at a huge disadvantage they encounter any of these types of criminals.
Unlike the majority of anti-firearm people, I have sources, academic, historical, and otherwise.