Thousands Turn to Twitter in Support of Fallen Sandburg Student
Late Sunday night, friends and family posted the hashtag #RN20 in honor of Ryan Nash. Within a few hours, thousands did the same to raise awareness and prevent others from suffering silently.
Updated, 2:15 p.m. Monday, May 07
Updated, 10:15 a.m. Monday, May 07
Close friends and family began sharing their grief on Twitter about suddenly losing a loved one Sunday night. Within a few hours, thousands of people joined them online, sharing thoughts and prayers after the death of 15-year-old Ryan Nash.
The Carl Sandburg High School freshman and baseball player was declared dead by the Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office Sunday night. The medical examiner concluded Monday afternoon that Nash died of a gunshot wound and his death was ruled a suicide.
Nash’s death sparked a massive reaction on Twitter, with prayers and support for him. Some thought early on that bullying may have been a contributing factor, but on Monday sources said that was not the case in Nash's death.
School counselors and social workers were on hand Monday to help students get through what several described as a hard day. Sandburg Principal Debbie Boniface said there was an outpouring of support from students and staff alike on Monday.
"A lot of care among the Sandburg community, for the community, was seen today," Boniface said.
In a statement, Consolidated High School District 230 expressed condolences to Nash's family.
"Today is a very sad day for the Sandburg High School community as we grieve the loss of a freshman student," the statement read. "The school community has rallied to support each other in a very difficult time. We extend our condolences to his family and friends. Our hearts go out to them as they cope with their loss."
As an effort to spread the hashtag #RN20 grew Sunday and Monday, it also served as a way to grieve, share memories and unite people who knew Nash, as well as former Sandburg students touched by his death. The common thread among thousands of tweets was to encourage people to confide their pain with friends and loved ones before making irreversible actions.
My brother can see how loved he was #RN20 thank you all so much for all of your support today
The hashtag spreading was also carried out by hundreds of people who didn’t know Nash, and didn’t have any ties to the school.
I never even knew you, but you have changed me. Ryan you will not be forgotten #RN20
Requests to Justin Bieber, Oprah Winfrey, Katy Perry, Northwestern Football Coach Pat Fitzgerald, Kim Kardashian, LeBron James, rapper Wiz Khalifa, Taj Gibson from the Chicago Bulls, ESPN, Sportscenter and many other high profile accounts were made to share the hashtag. The hope expressed by many was to get the hashtag circulating worldwide by Monday morning, and it reached nationally by then.
Record-breaking runner and Sandburg alum Lukas Verzbicas answered the call to spread word about Nash’s passing through Twitter.
Lukas Verzbicas @LukasVerzbicas
Baseball player Ryan Nash from my former high school took his life today. Keeping you and your family in prayers #RN20 #RIP
On Monday morning, celebrity and Sandburg alum Bill Rancic also helped spread word.
“@SawahCate please help us trend #RN20 for a Carl Sandburg student who took his life today. It would mean everything 2us Orland kids #RN20
Here are other thoughts shared by people Sunday night and early Monday morning on Nash’s passing, all of which can be seen on Twitter.
half of us didn't even know Ryan, but look at the amazing things we can do. Sandburg really is a family. #RN20#RestInPeace
Still in pain and shock ill miss you friend #RN20 never forgotten we have this eagles!
@Oprah Can you get this trending #RN20 for a kid who passed away at an age that is way to young and had so much potential#inspirational
This can't be a temporary change no more bullying fighting anything lets all RESPECT each other as one WE ALL ARE EQUAL #RN20
It's amazing how everyone can put their differences aside and help remember an amazing boy. #RN20
Knowing my best friend he would be doing the same thing if anyone else were in this position #RN20
julian gonzales @jujubean_40
I'll never say a rude thing to anyone again. you never know what you can do to someone. This ones to anyone I made fun of, I'm sorry#RN20
A Facebook page was also created Sunday in Nash’s memory.
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Sandburg Alum
4:00 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
As an alum of Sandburg and a victim of bullying while I was there, it truly is tragic and heartbreaking to hear about Ryan's death and my heart goes out to his family. Hopefully this will open everyone's eyes to see that there is a MAJOR problem with harassment at the school and that things start to change.
lilgilly
1:34 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
This was not bullying so stop talking if you dont know what happened
Sandburg Alum
7:21 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
My Heart goes out to the family and friends of Ryan. This is way to young to be losing kids! When are kids going to learn that bullying kills! Also I am a Sandburg Alum , once an Eagle always an Eagle! SOAR HIGH ABOVE THE CLOUDS RYAN! May you be at Peace!
lilgilly
1:34 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
wasnt bullying!
University student
7:43 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Somthing needs to be done about bullying i am sick and tired of hearing about kids committing sucide due to it. am i surrpised it happened at Sandburg? hell no because i went to jr high with some of those kids who are now attending sandburg and i got brutually bullied by kids in jr high. these kids have no clue what the hell their doing and do not no the consequences of their actions. something needs to be done and done now. Adminstration needs to get their act together to do somthing other than bringing kids in their office and scoulding them. The adminstation has failed many times in my jr high and other schools when it comes to bullying. I hope ryans case shows everyone a message. God bless ryan and his family. my thoughts and prayers go out to them. Remember God wil never give you anything you can not handel
lilgilly
1:35 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
wasnt bullying
kristyn coyle
7:44 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
This breaks my heart to hear such a tragic event happen so close to home. My daughter has been getting bullied for two years now. I actually had a meeting last week at lockport highschool to try and stop this, however they just brushed it off like my daughter asked for it. Then I even suggested having an assembly on bullying, and that was shut down. Last yr. someone told her she was so ugly she should just kill herself. I would have sleepless nights checking on her. When is this gonna end, my daughter went from being a positive person to a mean person that hates highschool. I'm so sick of this. If there's anything I can do, speak to students, parents whatever, I'm here to help. Bullying needs to stop and I'm so sorry that it lead an innocent boy to do such a horrible thing. It surely opened my eyes that this is serious and something needs to be done.
lilgilly
1:35 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
wasnt bullying
Arthur Huff
8:38 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
I have a question about the bullying stuff....Has anyone from his family, or maybe his close friends, suggested that he was a victim of bullying? I am not suggesting that anyone has falsely jumped to that conclusion, I'm just wondering how we got there.
justme
9:34 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
I was wondering the same thing, Arthur. Poor reporting on Patch's part. Where did the reporter get the information about the alleged suicide from - police? family? friends?
I'm not from the Orland area, so I don't know what's going on with this situation. The reporter could have done a better job because on the surface here, it seems people could be jumping to conclusions.
In any case, this young man's death is tragic. My prayers and thoughts go out to his family and friends.
Carol F.
10:30 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
He was being bullied-although not the only thing going on in his life but it was a huge part of it! The reporter doesn't need to reveal where the info came from-it is fact and that is that! These kids need to be stoppped from being so hateful! How dare they be so mean and cruel that they damage other peoples pychies-karma is a bitch and they will get theres! I can only pray for Ryan's friends and family now and hope that they will be given the strength they need to get through all of this. God bless all of them and please pray for them.
Arthur Huff
10:42 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Carol I think you misunderstood why I was asking that. If he was being bullied then that is atrocious and those kids will hopefully live with that tormenting them for the rest of their lives. The reason I am asking is because the talk of bullying if primarily coming from Twitter posts at this point and who knows if those are facts or rumors. I just believe that it's important to get that part of the story right because it will become a big story if that was the case. And of course I am not suggesting that it shouldn't be a big story if he wasn't being bullied, but surely you must realize the implications of a child committing suicide because he was being bullied and nobody helped him.
Sue N.
11:33 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
I feel Patch's reporting was in good taste, and done very responsibly. Not only did Ben clearly state in the begining " what people believe..." but I would like to applaud the Patch for reporting this and making everyone in our community aware of such a tragic loss before any other publication. And he obviously stayed up late to make sure it was reported timely too.
Not only does this article also provide another outlet for Ryan's friends and family to share memories, if posters comment approrpriately, its also another way for his family and friends to read about how well loved he was and will be missed. Which can help them deal with their greif during this horrible time.
Having lost many to suicide over the years, I truely wish no one ever has to experience this. So lets just all stick to keeping comments in line with the main purpose of this article. A wondeful young man sadly chose to end his life, no matter what his reason was, and now many family and friends are in terrible pain right now wishing he were still with us and need all our comfort and support more then ever.
My heart and many many prayers are going out to all who had the pleasure of being blessed by Ryan Nash during his short time on earth. May God bless him and comfort all who's hearts are breaking.
Ben Feldheim
12:58 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
While some have said bullying may have been a factor, others are also saying that wasn't the case. But really it appears the only person who knew is Ryan. I think at this time there's not much use in pointing fingers. The important thing is for people to know that they don't need to suffer in silence, for whatever the reason may be. Furthermore, I also want to note that I haven't heard anyone specifically say bullying was happening inside the school.
lilgilly
1:36 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
correct he was not bullied
Opinion 1
8:42 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
So many thanks to all who have helped spread the word on this tragic day. As a mother of 2 - I cannot imagine how terrible this is for the family of this young, handsome wonderful man. Bullying should be a crime - at all levels of age.
lilgilly
1:36 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
not bullying
Dean Casper
7:01 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
How do you know he wasn't bullied?
Rick
9:22 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
lilgilly so what was it?
Sandburg mom
8:55 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Bullying is always a sad issue; however it is sadder when people feel alienated to the point they don't share their feeling with loved ones. Especially kids need to understand it is " ok" to feel lost or show signs of weekness or despair! Many who are mourning today are feeling a sense of guilt thinking they could have helped him or that they didn't do enough for him.....I say to them, you couldn't because he didn't reach out, or show the signs, This is common trait amongst young people because it is not cool to show emotions. But all the outpour of support is making up for it, and you are all awesome for it... and will now be better humans than you were yesterday... that is HIS legacy!!!....I am a Sandburg mom who share in your love and grief.
Sandburg Alum
1:26 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
i really like this insight! i feel like it is foolish to think we can get kids to stop bullying, more effort needs to be put into making kids more resilient and able to cope with bullying in healthy ways. I know it is very unfair to put the burden of the solution onto the victims, but i honestly believe it is more pragmatic and will produce better results. one of the cores of psychological health is understanding what you can and can't control. Ultimately you can't control what someone does/says to you, but you 100% can teach yourself/be taught to control how it makes you feel. this article is really inspiring though, its nice to see people rally together im memory of someone who im sure is a great individual and who has made a positive impact in so many more lives than he could ever imagine.
Jerome O'Connor
9:01 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Very sorry to hear about your loss.
Bill
9:03 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
It is so sad that he couldn't see the value of his life. Kids need to know that there is more to life than what others think of them. They need to know there is a God that loves them and his name is Jesus. My prayers go out to the family that they will somehow find relief from their sorrow. I am going to hug my kids when I get home.
Mary O
9:05 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Whatever pain he was suffering, and he must have suffered silently; go for help, talk to someone, anyone who can direct you for help; it is ok to cry, get counseling or take medication if you suffer from depression-and I especially ask young, strong, brave men to hear this message. May God hold you in the palm of his loving hand Ryan.
OrlandParker
9:50 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
How tragic for the family. My condolences to the family as you grieve the loss of your wonderful loving son. May he rest in peace and live on in your hearts.
Gina
9:51 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
I am curious how the bully's feel when the object of their torture commits suicide? Do t hey feel guilt? remorse? or do they feel like it would have happened anyway?
I hope they feel the former.
porter pride
10:05 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Freedom of.speech. can't do anything .gotta have will to not listen to the haters.
Sue N.
11:59 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
I disagree to "can't do anything". Parents and the community can take a more active roll on being involved in our children's lives. Don't just talk the talk, but walk the walk. That saying "stick and stones may break my bones, but names can never hurt me"...is so not true! Its often easier to heal from broken bones than from the emotional damage caused by mean hurtful words. Time for everyone to start reinforcing that words and actions do hurt. Think before you act. If you wouldn't like someone doing or saying it to you...then don't say or do it at all!
With Freedom of Speach comes a responsibiity that shouldn't be forgotten...ever.
Debbie McDaniel-Bour
10:12 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
My most sincere condolences to Ryan's family and friends. I pray that you might find peace and understanding about your tragic loss. My grandson is Ryan's friend and is quite shaken and saddened by his untimely death. I can somewhat understand your grief as one of my family members took his life and it ISN'T something that gets better with time or heals but you do learn to live with it most days. I hope that you find peace one day and carry Ryan and your love for him in your heart. Talking about him and sharing memories will keep him alive in your heart. God Bless Ryan,his family and friends. D.B.
porter pride
10:22 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Suicide is the answer nowadaysit seems. Stand up for urself. No one can make u do this. Everyone's been bullied. Every high-school has bullys. It wont.change no matter what the law tries to do. People really need more will to live. I don't know any of my real parents and im still here. Grew up with just a sister. People take a lot
for granite. #endsuicide
Damien
3:06 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
*granted, not granite.
porter pride
10:22 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Suicide is the answer nowadaysit seems. Stand up for urself. No one can make u do this. Everyone's been bullied. Every high-school has bullys. It wont.change no matter what the law tries to do. People really need more will to live. I don't know any of my real parents and im still here. Grew up with just a sister. People take a lot
for granite. #endsuicid
Jeanine Esposito
10:52 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
No offense but it's people like you that let this kind of stuff happen. You are so blind to see what a serious problem this really is in these High Schools. My niece is a victim of bullying and nothing is ever done about it. We talk to her everyday and let her know how much we love her and are there for her. I don't know what I would do if something this tragic happened to her. I wish more people would wake up and see what a problem bullying really is.
Debbie Henninger
10:59 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
My daughter attends Carl Sandburg and was friends with Ryan. I remember being on Facebook ("stalking her"....) and saw Ryan Nash on her wall. I instantly noticed his beautiful smile, charming demeanor, and witty comments. My prayers go out to the Nash family. I cannot believe this has happened to such a beautiful young man with his entire life ahead of him. If bullying was a factor, God help those kids who have to live with such guilt.
concerned parent
11:37 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
It starts at a very early age. Grammar school kids are brutal and heartless and most of the time they get away with it. I think there needs to be a crackdown and severe punishments if kids are caught doing this. Parents need to open their eyes and see what is truly happening. Don't assume your child is innocent and say "Not my Child" or " My child would never do that". Trust me... believe it or not he/she may. Take an active role in your child's life and help stop these tragedies.
lilgilly
1:48 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
this was a horrible situation.......but was not caused by bullying
porter pride
11:37 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
Everyone u mean, is a victim of bullying. Every one goes thru it can't stop it. Sticks n stones may break my Boness. word never hurt me. Words r words. Listen to the ones u want. Ignore the ones u don't. Everyone learns this.
lilgilly
1:48 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
not bullied
porter pride
11:39 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
So now if ur being bullied just go ahead n do it is the messege Jeanie sends. The last thing God wants u to do is take ur life by urself. Stand-up for urself. That's what ur supposed yto do.
Jeanine Esposito
11:45 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
If by Jeanie your referring to me well that is by far the last thing I'm saying you must have read my comment wrong.
x
11:58 am on Monday, May 7, 2012
As a survivor of a very serious suicde attempt, I feel the need to say a few things. First of all, to the person that said you should just find the will to live and learn to stand up for yourself, you clearly have never suffered from depression. You may have had some bad days, but you have no idea what medical depression feels like.
To all the kids that are realizing the power and effect of their words today. You have gotten national attention, I heard about Ryans death many states away. You have gotten responses from famous people. Your words are powerful. Your words could have probably saved Ryans life. I am not blameing you for his death, but understand that had more people stood up in his defense when he didnt have the strength to, he might be here today. Please remember this the next time you hear people say unkind things about someone. Also know that the things that make you different now are the things that make you special and interesting as an adult. Growing up, I wanted to fit in more than anything, as an adult, I want the opposite.
To the parents. Pay more attention to your kids. If your kids are depressed, talk to them. Dont tell them things like "you dont know how good you have it, This is the best time of your life, wait till you get a job and have to pay bills..........". Those comments just validate the hopeless feelings.
I am sorry for everyones loss. I hope that Ryans death will at least help another kid reach out for the help they need.
Jerome O'Connor
1:14 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
Thank you for sharing your insight.
Jill
12:09 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
bystanders are just as guilty as the person causing the pain through his/her words or actions.
A bully needs an audience...
if the bystanders spoke up or walked away, the bully would stop.
Concerned Parent
12:17 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
I have a friend whose daughter is the victim of bullying at Tinley Park High School and she DID reach out to many people including the administration at the high school and the Tinley Park Police department. Unfortunately, nothing is being done and this "bully" will continue until something terrible like this happens because she has no consequences, even at home. Shame on the parents that say this boy should have reached out. Many parents of these "bullies" know their children act that way and don't do anything to correct their children. My thoughts and prayers are with the Nash family, I can't even imagine the pain they are suffering because of children that are not taught respect at home.
Nick S
12:18 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
I hope you guys know he wasn't bullied, at least not by the kids...I didn't know him well at all but I'm a freshman at Sandburg and I know he was one of the most popular kids in our grade and definitely WAS NOT bullied by other kids...I don't know what the cause was, but it wasn't that. Just wanted to clear that up.
lilgilly
1:51 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
thank you
Mary
12:39 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
God be with his family and his best friend nick. If he truly was bullied I blame the staff at the school because they need to be aware of what's goes on, when are children r in the building.
Missing34
12:41 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Porter, how do you know this young man didn't stand up for himself? Maybe he's getting bullied by someone bigger/stronger than him. Maybe even after sticking up for himself, that wasn't enough?
Cathy
12:46 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Sandburg mom: we are all saddened by this tragic news and personally affected by this young mans passing. Yes, our children do share their emotions and problems with their parents regarding school problems, peer pressure, sports, grades, rules nd regulations. The school obviously has a biased opinion regarding their employees and fall on deaf ear. The teachers and counselors themselves deny any wrongdoings....we, the parents and/or children are wrong. They better open up their eyes and ears as to what is going on amongst students and the unfairness and imperviousness on their part. God bless this young man and prayers to hs family and friends who will miss him dearly.
Cathy
12:51 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
As a parent, I have gotten involved with the bullying of my child at Carl Sandburg high school. There are so many unfair practices and biased opinions. If a child comes and asks for help, they cause more problems with their unprofessional responses and immaturity about sticking up for their own teachers, counselors, nurses, etc. what is happening to our trust for the education and safety of our children. I could see why families home school. God be with Ryan..may He hold him in his arms with the joy and peace of heaven.
Orland Park Resident
3:18 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
You are so right Cathy. We are currently going through a situation there where a coach & administrators are all protecting themselves from crap pulled by one of the coaches. The coach went so far as to bash our family & child on Facebook and no one did anything about it. The frail & insecure coach didn't like an article in the paper about our child having success in his sport outside of his team. The cronyism between these people is most disturbing.
lilgilly
1:52 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
If you want to talk about this problem first realize he wasnt bullied.....he was a nice kid and had many friends and all of us do love him
Ron Kemp
7:01 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
lilgilly, do you know what pushed him over the edge? Obviously, something had to be the final straw. Depression? Breakup with a girlfriend? I agree that too many people immediately assume that bullying was the reason for a teen suicide. I know that that's not the case. I write about teen suicides everyday.
km
7:36 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
they know he wasnt bullied please let people talk
Lara
1:57 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
And this happens mere months after the article on the Mulvey family filing suit against the school district after their daughters bullying got brushed under the table at Sandburg, I think its clear something serious is going on at this high school and needs to be dealt with. It is not 'normal for every kid to get bullied'. This school has serious issues to resolve and nobody can deny it now.
Saddened
2:14 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Lilgilly-how can you be so confident that bullying did not play a role in this tragedy?
Orland Park Resident
3:31 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Confirmed by law enforcement & the kids, bullying not an issue here.
Denise
7:01 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
I asked myself the same question Saddened. As a popular person in school myself, I was bullied for several years. People around me never knew. Bullying can be done easily with very little knowledge from others. Either way though...my prayers go out to the Nash family and friends.
Ben Feldheim
2:20 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Folks, I want you to know that I have now on good authority that bullying is not believed to be a factor in Ryan's passing. It took a little time to confirm it beyond the words coming through on Twitter and here on comments, and I apologize for the delay on that.
justme
2:40 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Ben, perhaps instead of racing to be first with "breaking news," and trying to get a step ahead of the SouthtownStar and the Trib, how about waiting to get your facts straight.
This is an example of poor reporting and further hurts people already upset over this young man's death.
Facebook and Twitter are great, but I've come across too many instances in which people post, retweet, share, etc., information that is inaccurate, rumor or flat-out untrue. Patch's decision to run an article based on unconfirmed information was irresponsible, and I hope this article didn't inflict further pain on to this young man's family.
I'm not saying bullying doesn't exist. I don't know what's going on on Sandburg, but to report something like this without having the facts straight is just wrong.
Megan James
3:31 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
@justme - again - stop beating Ben up! You're being a bit of a bully now! Ben didn't rush to get this story out there to be the first. Ben, unlike other papers, is deeply connected to the community and knew this story was important to all those involved. He did the right thing by reporting the "bullying" as only mentioning that it was in the twitter comments. Never did he come out and say it was a result of bullying, not did he ever come out and confirm it was bullying. He just passed along the information as it came. And the whole point of the article was to show the outpouring of love and support for Ryan that was on Twitter or Facebook. You just interpreted it wrong. So please get YOUR facts straight before you commend others for what you preceived to be their actions without really knowing. Seriously...have you not learned anything?
Ben Feldheim
3:47 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Justme, I can understand your thoughts on this, though I don't believe we ran "an article based on unconfirmed information." It was a judgment to include in the story that some people believed bullying was a contributing factor, and that was indeed the case. They did believe that. That wasn't attributed to any source other than from where it came. I have been up front about my process. There are other publications out there that won't do as such, and chose not to while reporting this story, even after making a factual mistake.
justme
4:36 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Megan, I would appreciate it if you didn't call me a bully. It's very unfair.
I was questioning a reporter's actions and professionalism. While he did say it was believed the death was prompted by bullying, it was apparent he made no attempt (other than reading Twitter posts) to confirm this item for several hours. There was nothing in this article that indicated he attempted to call police, the family or friends for comment. If so, he should have stated so in the article.
I did not call the reporter names or personally attack him. I am in the same line of work in another state and came across this article online. If I had published something like this, I'd be in my editor's and publisher's offices right now getting reamed for publishing wildly inaccurate news. It wouldn't matter how deeply I'm connected to the community. There would be consequences, including losing the trust of readers.
I've been publicly (and unfairly) called names because of articles I've written. It's hurtful and I've had to deal with it. Being open to public criticism, especially harsh criticism, is part of the job, unfortunately.
Ben Feldheim
7:54 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Justme, I have no problem with your criticism. This just happens to be a point we disagree on. You're welcome to have your view, though I find it interesting that as a journalist you're going by an alias and using a fake email to create an account, while talking about being open to criticism. Usually that's grounds for suspension, but I'll leave your comments to illustrate the point.
You should also know that I wasn't first to publish this story. If you saw the initial reports, you'd find your critiques would be better given elsewhere when it comes to accuracy. And I have received a lot of messages today from different people, students, parents of students, people in the community. You don't need to worry about us and our readers.
paige mccullough
2:32 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
if it wasn't bullied what was it
Ben Feldheim
2:40 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
That's a very good question. Unfortunately, in cases like this, sometimes the causes aren't known. That's why I personally think the important thing here is to encourage people not to suffer silently.
There is no way to prevent a person from experiencing pain in life. We can talk about causes all we want, and try to place blame in as many different ways as we can think of, but at the end of the day, the important thing is for a person in pain to find relief. And for anyone in pain to feel comfortable coming forward and saying he or she needs help. Same goes with addiction and many other afflictions.
I know I have buried some of my own issues and struggles, and on that I can tell you it only makes it worse. I knew I had people to turn to, and I didn't because of shame. I think the takeaway here is to simply let people in our lives know that we're here for them when they need it, and that there's nothing to be ashamed about needing help.
Eileen Kost
8:12 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Ben,
Two of my family members committed suicide. To this day there are no answers. People jump to conclusions as to what their thoughts are of why someone chose this final decision. There will never be an answer. My husband committed suicide 20 years ago. Handsome and successful in life in my eyes, but hopeless in his own. We will never know what drives individuals to this final act. There's no blame that we can contribute to this final act. I don't think that this is a rational decision. We know that, but the person in pain has no other choice. People asked me if I saw any signs. How insensitive of them! If I had the insight, I would have gotten him help! Had he still been here if I saw signs? Probably not! If not then, another day he would have chosen to end his hopelessness. Unfortunately, my husband didn't ask me for help. He turned to "friends" for help. They didn't recognize his anguish! Perhaps Ryan shared some secrets with his friends. Perhaps they didn't recognize his anguish.
Rest in peace Ryan. Your troubles are gone. I believe your are with the angels. Look at all who loved you. You will be with them again one day.
Survivors of suicide need love and support. There's nobody to blame! Ryan made his own decision. Don't look for answers! You won't find them! My heart goes out for Ryan's parents. It will take time to heal the wounds of losing a child. Life will never be the same for them.
Eileen Kost, Orland Park, Ill
Orland Park Resident
3:30 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
It is confirmed by law enforcement & the kids, bullying was not an issue here. No doubt bullying is a big problem, but not in this case.
KindnessMatters
4:36 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
At this point, it isn't known whether Ryan was bullied or not. My condolences and prayers go out to his family and friends at this time of terrible loss. I can tell you, however, that this school has, at least in the past (I can't speak for now), had a serious bullying problem. I teach at the school where a there is a wonderful young woman who was bullied relentlessly at Carl Sandburg and the school did nothing about it even when it was brought to their attention. It got so unbearable that she finally had to leave the school. She is doing very well here and I am so proud of her strength. Wake up, Carl Sandburg, and address this problem! Nobody should have to live with bullying.
Rebecca Wharrie
4:27 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
This is tragic for Ryan and all who knew him. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
While I do not know anything about this young man and his tragic choice, I do know that the number one cause of suidide is a psychiatric disorder, ranging from depression, anxiety, eating disorders, and many others. Most is undiagnosed and untreated, especially in young people.
Frequently, psychiatric issues are feared, misunderstood and treated like leprosy by those who aren't educated on the topic.
It is Childhood Mental Health Awareness week. Please educate yourselves about the signs and symptoms that can lead to such a tragic decision that can sadden and change a community.
My prayers and thoughts go out to all who love and miss Ryan.
Kathie
7:01 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Well said, Rebecca. Suicide victims think they are escaping the pain, but they are only passing it on, ten-fold to those who love and care about them. Many psychologists say that if a young person would have the ability to wait one, two.... five days, they would see that things get better. Seeking counseling is not taboo like it was years ago. There are many resources available to the community. The Orland Township has certified counselors on staff, ready to help: (http://www.orlandtwp.org/content/youth-family-services or call (708)-403-4222.) Also you can call the toll-free National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The service is available to anyone. All calls are confidential. Parents keep talking to your children! There is no mistake so big or no problem too great that we can't work together for a solution! Taking your life is ugly and so painful for those you leave behind.
Kelly
7:01 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
To LILGILLY
Since you are responding to everyone that has commented on "bullying" saying that wasn't the case, why don't you enlighten us and tell us the reasoning to Ryan's sudden death. Obviously the one person that knew was Ryan, and everything else is pure speculation, but it seems you know the truth... please let us know to make a change/
Gina
7:25 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
To all teens....when you think you are going through the worst possible thing that could happen to and you see no way out..or you know someone who feels this way... Reach out an adult... If not your parents, try a friend's parent....chances are they have been there (even if they never admitted it to you) or knew someone that had to deal with something similar....remember that adults survived the turmoil and transition that the teenage years bring.....you ARE surrounded by people that care about you...but you will not realize this until you talk to them.......my deepest sympathies
Nora
7:42 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Maybe all you people should leave this family alone during the most tragic time of their lives. Do not blame the school, do not blame the family, he took his own life, and if they want to keep the reason personal than leave them alone. God bless Ryan and his family, they will never be the same.
Mari
8:19 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
LilGilly
It seems that when people are jumping to conclusions that this young man took his life because bullying played a part is upsetting to you. To lose someone for any reason at such a young age is tragic and I am deeply sorry for your pain. When and if you feel the time is appropriate maybe you could share what Ryan's reasons might have been, that would be wonderful. Sometimes other people can relate and hopefully think twice before it's too late!! My sympathies to Ryan's family and friends.
Lockport Mom of 4
Ron Kemp
9:12 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
@Lockport Mom of 4
You're 100% on target. The time has come for the silence to be lifted on these teen suicides. As we're seeing over and over again, silence is deadly. Like you said, understanding Ryan's dilemma could possibly help save someone else. Understandably, right now is much too soon for anyone close to him to talk about it. I've been there; I do get it. At the end of the day, what matters most is that this young man is gone. WHY he's gone doesn't matter at this point, especially to those closest to him.
KLF
9:17 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
It is a very private matter and people should just leave it alone. The only people tht need to know is his family it is no one else's business. I have never seen so many people make conclusions on something they nothing about . We should just be saying prayers for the family and for Ryan and stop making up stories and rumors.
Carol
9:22 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
If we are quiet about why, we can not help the next person.
Kathie
9:55 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Ryan was a beautiful little boy who loved playing ball as early as he could hold onto one. He grew up with a wonderful big sister and parents who loved their children more than anything. He had a smile that could light up a room and was a fun loving, and a good friend. He made many good memories with those who love him, hold onto those good times. Don't dwell on how his life ended, remember how he loved baseball, his laugh and how he enjoyed hanging out with friends.
May you rest in peace, Ryan.
lilgilly
10:23 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
Ok I was friends with him and my half brother is his cousin I knew him in school and he wasn't bullied the thing that led him over the top I can't answer but it isn't right for all you people to try to talk about this.....I agree bullying is a problem but In this case it wasn't the key factor don't try startin more rumors and problems for the nash family just pray and give support for them...#RN20<3
KJ
10:44 pm on Monday, May 7, 2012
It really is no one's business what Ryan was going through but those that knew and loved him. The rest of you are simply being nosey. Instead of asking why, pray that his family and friends find a way to deal with the pain and grief! My prayers are with the Nash family ans Ryan's friends! Lilgilly thank you for trying stop the rumors!
KT
9:22 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
It is tragic when anyone, especially someone in their youth, takes their own life. The grief his family, ESPECIALLY his parents are going through, is simply unspeakable. While it is probably true that the circumstances are nobody's business, the questions are a normal response to such a tragedy. Asking "why" is not malicious. It speaks to human empathy. If we all gain a small amount of understanding, perhaps we will learn something, and prevent a tragedy like this in the future. Ultimately, it is very important to respect his family's wishes in all things regarding Ryan's death. Until their wishes are known, everyone should comment and mourn respectfully without judgement of Ryan or each other, no matter how well you knew him. Stop the threads chastising one other and pray for Ryan and his family.
Bob
9:22 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
I have no idea what the root cause of the problem that caused this tragedy was, but I do hope that the family comes out and makes this a teachable moment. I know it's painful at this difficult time, but while there is attention on this it would be a true public service ot use that attention to bring awareness of the "warning signs" that perhaps could have resulted in action that could have prevented this tragedy.
There could perhaps be no greater legacy to Ryan from this tragedy than to save some other family from suffering this painful loss
Renee
9:22 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
You know what's funny,all this effort by u guys to fight and argue about it with eachother. Why dont u turn that around and do something good with it. We will never know what truely happened except for Ryan.
Renee
9:22 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
U really thing tjats whay he would want from all of u?
Carol
9:22 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
How can the next child be helped if we dont know?
noodle
10:27 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
Easily. Love your children. Pay attention to them. Be a part of their lives. I'm not saying that Ryan's parents, family and friends weren't. I don't know what happened and I don't care to speculate.
I think you're grasping at straws here. You're obviously desperate for an answer.
Suppose you found out the reason Ryan chose to end his life. Suppose you take that knowledge and try to apply it somewhere and you're wrong.
Knowledge is a weapon and a shield. Sometimes it protects, sometimes it kills.
The most important thing is to always have an open line of communication.
My point here is this: how much does it really matter what the reason was? A young man is no longer with us. Stop prying.
There are people who are out there trying to use this as a "teaching" moment. They're going to be selling bracelets. The proceeds will go to suicide awareness and/or the Nash family.
Rebecca Wharrie
10:22 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
It is hopelessness and pain that causes suidide, period. The cause of the hopelessness and pain isn't going to be helpful for anyone to read because all of us have different thresholds for desperation that could result in hopelessness.
What will help us for the future, for that next child, is to know the signs of suicidal thoughts and actions. We need to know our children as best we can, recognize changes in personality or behavior, and not EVER be ashamed to seek the help of others, including professionals.
I think it's a normal reaction for people to wonder what would drive someone to such a tragic choice because we wonder if it could happen to us or people we love. It's just not healthy for grieving family and friends to see details about what may have led Ryan to his choice written on the Internet. Maybe we could all give it a rest?
Victoria
11:12 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
RIP. #RN20 <3
Etan Koznetsov
7:04 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
People it's great to see that you care, BUT RYAN NASH WAS NEVER BULLIED!! Please stop spreading ignorant statements and false information! Don't talk if you don't know the story!
God child
7:04 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
I go to Carl Sandburg high but I never knew Ryan but I'll pray for his family and friends .
R.I.P #RN20
Shaffon
9:41 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
ryan you and me werent the tighest but its ok i have mad respect for you and you will be missed dearly. i honestly wish you could just see how much every1 loves you , i watched u graduate and sadly i cant anymore but it doesnt mean you're forgotten or wont be in ANY1's prayers . WE LOVE AND MISS YOU SO MUCH RYAN!!!!!!!! #rn20 ~love ShAfFoN n SaNdBuRg kids~ (n andrew and stagg n yeah just about every other school that misses you and your cute smile.<<<<<<<<3333333 u ryan.!!!!!)
Charlie yale
9:41 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
I've never met Ryan but he seems like a nice and athletic kid from what I hear. My good friend took his life two months ago and I was devastated. To all his family and friends: stick in there and stay strong he is in a good place
Sandburg mom
9:41 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
So sad....
Ethan Richard Hufnagl
3:02 pm on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
He lived in my neighborhood . Lots of love . <3. #RN20
Ethan Richard Hufnagl
8:12 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
He lived in my neighborhood . <3. #RN20
KC
3:24 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
As a parent of two Sandburg students, I just want say how VERY PROUD I am of all the students at Sandburg. Your support for Ryan and his family has been unwaivering. You grieve him as a community of people who loved and respected him. I see you all honoring Ryan by lifting eachother up, loving eachother and pulling together as a school community. Creating something positive from such a tragedy- (maybe saving someone else from suicide with all the open dialogue) is something most adults would not be able to do. SANDBURG EAGLES- I am proud of you. You are all wise beyond your years. Stay kind and love eachother! MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
Carol
8:40 pm on Thursday, May 10, 2012
This has not only touched the Orland Community. The love and support from Lockport has been amazing too. My niece goes to Lockport HS and she said they all wore black on Monday and White onTuesday and the kids are writing #20 on their shoes and clothes in honor of RN #20.
Franklin Cook
11:25 am on Friday, May 11, 2012
A number of free resources designed to help people bereaved by suicide are available through the "Suicide Grief Support Quick Reference" (http://sg.sg/griefreference) a tool developed by Unified Community Solutions and a work group of the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline Consumer-Survivor Subcommittee (1-800-273-TALK/8255).
Joan
10:20 am on Monday, May 14, 2012
Whether or not bullying, a relationship breakup, a family problem, a fear, a threat, a comment by a teacher or a respected adult, whatever...the world lost a young man who had value. The school will look into the problem, the family will sort out the circumstances that led to his death, and his friends will forever remember a friend who came and left too quickly. As for the bully comments, it may or may not have been present in his life. If it was, the bullies should take a step back and realize the damage they do. For, it is they who have the disturbed minds lacking attention and needing control. The energy that everyone has should be focused on how to make the school and world a better place IN Ryan's honor. Stop the bullying in the hallways, encourage more positive ways to communicate in relationships (in and out of the home), recognize the signs on depression and suicidal tendencies and speak up even at the cost of losing a friend, and live simply by the Golden Rule that we all learned in kindergarten: Treat people the way who want them to treat you.
My prayer is that all people with suicidal tendancies get help and realize that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Let Ryan's memory live on by changing the world to be a better place. RIP