In response to the South Suburban Patch network's poll, several Patch commenters opened up a debate.
, from Oak Lawn Patch, writes:
"You can't make gay marriage illegal because it's a sin. ... What about the rest of the sins that are currently not illegal? Gluttony is a perfect example. If gay marriage is going to be illegal on the grounds of it being a sin, then it should be illegal to be overweight."
, from Homewood-Flossmoor Patch, writes:
"I believe in small government. I believe government should stay out of our bedrooms and out of our decisions over our own bodies. I believe that without choice there is no freedom. I believe every person should have the right to choose."
, from Oak Forest Patch, writes:
"The problem for me with gay marriage is what it then leads to. The wanting to 'adopt' kids, and raise them in an unnatural environment."
. Want to know more? Read the south suburban reaction to President Obama's endorsement of gay marriage rights in .
So your solution to someone who has a natural homosexual inclination is that they should "choose" to be heterosexual and deny all homosexual inclinations. I hope you realize that for most homosexuals this would be impossible, or at the very least self-destructive. It is not your right to demand that a person lives in misery. It is not your right to demand that your moral code should determine who gets to have a full, rich life and who doesn't. I wish you could recognize your blindness.
I love how you assume that Bob is white!! As if you have to be white and rich to have a problem with homosexuality. Wrong! There are plenty of black southern Baptists that share that view. I do agree with you that the morals of this world have gone down!
What YOU are blind to is that you're trying to oppress US by forcing acceptance and promotion of your lifestyle on us, and want to punish us for any "thought crime" if we don't accept and support that lifestyle. I'll make you deal.....you stay out of my pocketbook and out of my childrens classrooms, and I'll stay out of you sequened closet!LOL
It''s the same with gay people. You may have urges, but a human being has a choice about acting on them. Let's face it...people can "couple" with anything from a right hand to inanimate objects. That's just a physical act, and is a choice. Having a committed REALTIONSHIP is apart from that. Someone may be a killer, but choose not to kill. Someone may have the mindset and complusioins of a rapist, but choose not to rape. A gay person may be attracted to someone of the same gender, but performing sodomy is a CHOICE! Don't sell yourself short, David. You are the product of the choices you make. If you choose to sodomize, that's none of my business, or the government's. Just take responsiblity for your choices, and don't expect others to validate them with treasure and government tyranny.
I do not understand why there is never a reply box in your posts or comments. Is this by your choice, David? My response to you,Davey. Your pessimistic ranting of my having used the word, negate, baffles me. You have distorted it's meaning to fit your weak and non-thought provoking rebuttal. That it is (or should be) morally correct and justified to sodomize a human being, of the same gender. Well, you know what, Davey, it is my opinion, and that of hundreds of millions of other human beings, it is not morally, politically, Biblically, or mythic-ally, correct. It is nothing more than a self-satisfying act of depravity. You and your self-congratulatory thoughts have no substance. Davey, I do not know if you are a father or not. I do know this, I would truly wish and implore you not in anyway shape or form to try and convey your thoughts, which are no more than lies, to my children or anyone's children. You are the type of person that would twist a child's reasoning to be parallel with yours. You would not hesitate to draw them into the same "sexual misery" that you yourself suffer. You poses the same ostentatious and condescending attributes it would take to confuse our young and hopefully innocent children. You should be and are to be WATCHED as being a self-appointed, degrading "social engineer", of our young and innocent. ..........Semper Fi. Keep your distance from my young! Semper Fi!
I never said that you have to be rich and white to have a problem with homosexuality. I just don't think Bob has a grip on reality. I am sure he is the guy that has an answer for everything, probably thinks teachers are to blame for failing students, and thinks poor people are lazy. However, maybe I am assuming to much. Thanks for reading though.
I want to address the "not natural" argument. Alexander the Great (the greatest warrior to ever live) was a homosexual. Try and read some books about Alexander and his partner Hephaestion sometime. Homosexuality is found in thousands of species in nature...it is not something new and is natural. What defines morals? The bible? That is a laugh!
Being a Christian is a "choice" and as such we should not have this lifestyle shoved upon us that have reason on our side. I don't want my kids to hear your nonsense as in my family we use bibles to start our fireplace in the winter. So stop trying to silence myself and other who are critical of your "Christian" lifestyle because it is not normal.
Marine Sniper said: No reply box in your post. Your volition? No,phxdr, YOU ARE A LAUGH! What type of "military service card" am I trying to pull? By no means am I patting my self on the back. I was awarded 3 Purple Hearts and 2 Bronze Stars with COMBAT "V"s. DO NOT try to school me on military "virtue". You make yourself a doltish "item", indeed. The way you speak of Alexander the Great "(the greatest warrior to ever live) was a homosexual", you sound like one whom is infatuated, in awe, and in love. If he was a homosexual does that make the act natural? You speak like a, dolt. Again, your choice. I left my blood in the rice-paddies and jungles of Vietnam so people like you could sodomize a willing human being of the same gender. Be thankful I gave my blood so that you could enjoy your depravity, unknowing to me at the time. Stay away from my children! Semper Fi!
Covey leader this raven, come in Rambo. Sir, in Nam they would let me drive 30 million dollar tanks. Now, back in the states me and Bob have to deal with these gays. I didnt spill my blood for them.
I am not in love infatuated or in awe. You see the problem I have is that a person whom my family knows real well and respects is being treated as a second class citizen by yourself and others like you. I know this information not because I am some homosexual in the closet as you are trying to imply but because I read books. Stay away from my kids and keep your Christian beliefs to yourself as I find them morally wrong!
If I had just came out and said how many medals I was awarded, you would have had a problem with that, also. You sound like a wimpish type person. Am I right? You sound like you would have made a great draft-dodger, back'n the day. Oh, and BTW medals aren't "won" they are "awarded", you DOLT! Semper Fi!
Couldn't you have used anything that would not possibly be suggested as plagiarism. Your ranting is all secondary garble that tries to associate itself with the topic at hand. Try to think for yourself. Your entire dialog is so undereducated. You first begin to create a sentence then you parenthesize it for no reason or meaning. Trying to act as though you have a GED does not work well for you.......Aren't you embarrassed? Semper Fi!
BTW Thanks to your service to the Vietnam people (because that is who you really fought for).
I loved my fellow Marines and brothers. That did not mean I wanted to engage in a sexual act with them. Semper Fi!
Phx, when truth is your enemy, deception is clearly your friend.